books - What We're Reading - StockBuz2024-03-28T15:01:54Zhttp://stockbuz.ning.com/articles/feed/tag/booksBull or Bear Market? Reminiscences of a Stock Operatorhttp://stockbuz.ning.com/articles/bull-or-bear-market2010-06-06T19:00:00.000Z2010-06-06T19:00:00.000ZStockBuzhttp://stockbuz.ning.com/members/1t2xbcvddkrir<div><p><font size="2">Given the price action in the market lately, there's been much discussion here on what constitutes a pullback and what constitutes a change in direction or trend. The suggestions have ranged from three weekly or monthly lower closes, a close below a certain moving average, various moving average crosses and more but in all honesty I don't think there's *one* holy grail. One indicator that satisfies all investors across all asset classes and we all have different loss tolerances and for that matter, different viewpoints or perspectives on the world economy and it's ongoing recovery.</font></p>
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<p><font size="2">This discussion however, brought to mind the following [somewhat lengthy] excerpt from the novel on Jesse Livermore, <span style="font-weight: bold;">Reminiscences of a Stock Operator</span>, written in 1923 by Edwin <span id="SPELLING_ERROR_0" class="blsp-spelling-error">Lefevre [available in PDF format in our Books Forum] This excerpt</span> helps reinforce in my mind the importance trading in the direction of the primary move, and to avoid the noise of short-term fluctuations which quite honestly, is difficult for a short-term trader such as myself to remember on a daily basis. I welcome your comments, and enjoy!</font></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>In Fullerton's there were the usual crowd. All grades! Well, there was one old chap who was not like the others. To begin with, he was a much older man. Another thing was that he never volunteered advice and never bragged of his winnings.</em></font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>He</em></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>was a great hand for listening very attentively to the others. He did not seem very keen to get tips -- that is, he never asked the talkers what they'd heard or what they knew. But when somebody gave him one he always thanked the tipster very</em></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>politely. Sometimes he thanked the tipster again -- when the tip turned out O.K. But if it went wrong he never whined, so that nobody could tell whether he followed it or let it slide by. It was a legend of the office that the old jigger was rich and could swing quite a line. But he wasn't donating much to the firm in the way of commissions; at least not that anyone could see. His name was Partridge, but they nicknamed him Turkey behind his back, because he was so thick-chested and had a habit of strutting about the various rooms, with the point of his chin resting on his breast.</em></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em><font size="2">The customers, who were all eager to be shoved and forced into doing things so as to lay the blame for failure on others, used to go to old Partridge and tell him what some friend of a friend of an insider had advised them to do in a certain stock. They would tell him what they had not done with the tip so he would tell them what they ought to do. But whether the tip they had was to buy or to sell, the old chap's answer was always the same. The customer would finish the tale of his perplexity and then ask: "What do you think I ought to do? <font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter">Old Turkey would cock his head to one side, contemplate his fellow customer with a fatherly smile, and finally he would say very impressively, "You know, it's a bull market!"</font></font></em></font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>Time and again I heard him say, "Well, this is a bull market, you know!" as though he were giving to you a priceless talisman wrapped up in a million-dollar accident-insurance policy. And of course I did not get his meaning. One day a fellow named Elmer Harwood rushed into the office, wrote out an order and gave it to the clerk. Then he rushed over to where Mr. Partridge was listening politely to John Fanning's story of the time he overheard Keene give an order to one of his brokers and all that John made was a measly three points on a hundred shares and of course the stock had to go up twenty-four points in three days right after John sold out. It was at least the fourth time that John had told him that tale of woe, but old Turkey wa</em></font></font></span><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>s smiling as sympathetically as if it was the first time he heard it.</em></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>Well, Elmer made for the old man and, without a word of apology to John Fanning, told Turkey, "Mr. Partridge, I have just sold my Climax Motors. My people say the market is entitled to a reaction and that I'll be able to buy it back cheaper. So</em></font></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>you'd better do likewise. That is, if you've still got yours." Elmer looked suspiciously at the man to whom he had given the original tip to buy. The amateur, or gratuitous, tipster always thinks he owns the receiver of his tip body and soul, even before he knows how the tip is going to turn out.</em></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>"Yes, Mr. Harwood, I sti</em></font></font></span><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>ll have it. Of course!" said Turkey gratefully. It was nice of Elmer to think of the old chap.</em></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"Well, now is the time to take your profit and get in again on the next dip," said Elmer, as if he had just made out the deposit slip for the old man. Failing to perceive enthusiastic gratitude in the beneficiary's face Elmer went on: "I have just sold every share I owned!" From his voice and manner you would have conservatively estimated it at ten thousand shares.</em></font></font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>But Mr. Partridge shook his head regretfully and whined, "No! No! I can't do that!"</em></font></font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>'What?" yelled Elmer.</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"I simply can't!" said Mr. Partridge. He was in great trouble.</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"Didn't I give you the tip to buy it?"</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"You did, Mr. Harwood, and I am very grateful to you.</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>Indeed, I am, sir. But --"</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"Hold on! Let me talk! And didn't that stock go up seven points in ten days? Didn't it?"</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"It did, and I am much obliged to you, my dear boy. But I couldn't think of selling that stock."</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"You couldn't?" asked Elmer, beginning to look doubtful himself. It is a habit with most tip givers to be tip takers.</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"No, I couldn't."</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"Why not?" And Elmer drew nearer.</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"Why, this is a bull market!" The old fellow said it as though he had given a long and detailed explanation.</em></font></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>"That's all right," said Elmer, looking angry because of his disappointment. "I know this is a bull market as well as you do. But you'd better slip them that stock of yours and buy it back on the reaction. You might as well reduce the cost to</em></font></font></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>yourself."</em></font></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>"My dear boy," said old Partridge, in great distress "my dear boy, if I sold that stock now I'd lose my position; and then where would I be?"</em></font></font></font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2"><em>Elmer Harwood threw up his hands, shook his head and walked over to me to get sympathy: "Can you beat it?" he asked me in a stage whisper. "I ask you!"</em></font></font></font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>I didn't say anything. So he went on: "I give him a tip on Climax Motors. He buys five hundred shares. He's got seven points' profit and I advise him to get out and buy 'em back on the reaction that's overdue even now. And what does he say when</em></font></font></font></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>I tell him? He says that if he sells he'll lose his job. What do you know about that?"</em></font></font></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>"I beg your pardon, Mr. Harwood; I didn't say I'd lose my job," cut in old Turkey. "I said I'd lose my position. And when you are as old as I am and you've been through as many booms and panics as I have, you'll know that to lose your position is something nobody can afford; not even John D. Rockefeller. I hope the stock reacts and that you will be able to repurchase your line at a substantial concession, sir. But I myself can only trade in accordance with the experience of many years. I paid a high price for it and I don't feel like throwing away a</em></font></font></font></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>second tuition fee. But I am as much obliged to you as if I had the money in the bank. It's a bull market, you know." And he strutted away, leaving Elmer dazed.</em></font></font></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p align="left"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>What old Mr. Partridge said did not mean much to me until I began to think about my own numerous failures to make as much money as I ought to when I was so right on the general market. The more I studied the more I realized how wise that old chap</em></font></font></font></font></span> <span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><em>was. He had evidently suffered from the same defect in his young days and knew his own human weaknesses. He would not lay himself open to a temptation that experience had taught him was hard to resist and had always proved expensive to him, as it was to me.</em></font></font></font></font></span></font></p>
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<p dir="ltr" align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter" size="2">Lastly, this short excerpt</font></span></p>
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<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font size="2"><em>Nobody can catch all the fluctuations. In a</em> <em>bull market your game is to buy and hold until you believe that</em></font></font></span></p>
<p align="left"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><font face="Lucida Sans Typewriter"><font size="2"><em>the bull market is near its end. To do this you must study</em> <em>general conditions and not tips or special factors affecting</em> <em>individual stocks. Then get out of all your stocks; get out for</em> <em>keeps! Wait until you see -- or if you prefer, until you think</em> <em>you see the turn of the market; the beginning of a reversal of</em> <em>general conditions. You have to use your brains and your vision</em> <em>to do this"</em></font></font></span></p>
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